Role Play 45 Highlight - How to NAIL Cold Calling Probate Leads as a Real Estate Agent, Investor, Or Wholesaler - Live Roleplay Critique and Comparison

How to NAIL Cold Calling Probate Leads as a Real Estate Agent, Investor, Or Wholesaler – Live Roleplay Critique and Comparison

In this highlight, we put two live roleplays side-by-side to compare the difference in tone and delivery.

In Roleplay call #45, Justin (new to Probate Real Estate) and Peter (A Probate Mastery Veteran) both jumped in the hot seat with the coaches.

They both hit all the same points, but their tone and delivery were vastly different!

Together, the examples show the beginning and end result of getting your core content down and backing away from a scripted conversation.

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Mastermind Highlight Summary - Handling Probate Real Estate Objections. Probate Attorney Myths

TRUTH or MYTH?? “Our Probate Attorney Said We Can’t Sell Until Probate is Closed!” Handling Objections – Mastermind Highlights

In this highlight, Chad covers the basics of the probate process and how to communicate effectively to prospective clients that they CAN move forward in selling their inherited property – even while probate is open.

 

Has A Personal Representative Ever Told You They Can’t Do Anything With Their Inherited Property Because They’re Still Going Through the Probate Process?

Maybe their attorney misspoke. Maybe they were taking in too much information at once and didn’t really understand correctly.  In any case, this is a MYTH!

The Truth Is, Probate Doesn’t Need To Be Closed In Order To Sell Property!

There are even instances where settling an estate requires property to be dealt with.

We know this is a common misconception, wherever it may originate from.  We also understand people trust their probate attorney and in order for them to be receptive to you, you’ll need to convey value and expertise confidently when you hear this kind of objection.

In this highlight, Chad covers the basics of the probate process and how to communicate effectively to prospective clients that they CAN move forward in selling their inherited property.

Call Summary

Kenneth calls in from California and asks a few questions about the probate process. How does the overbid process work? How do creditor claims work in probate and what is the window for that? How does the bill for the Broker Price Opinion (BPO) get assigned through probate? Is it true I can’t move forward with selling the property until the estate is closed?

Chad gives a great overview on the timeline of the probate process, dispels the myth that property can’t be sold until probate is closed, and offers great verbiage for handling this objection in a way that conveys value and expertise.

Don’t forget, when you are able to help a personal representative move forward when they thought they had to wait, you now have a great opportunity to build a bridge with their probate attorney! Show THEM how you can provide the same success story for their other clients.

This highlight is from Mastermind Call #238.

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HOW TO HANDLE THE MOST COMMON PROBATE REAL ESTATE OBJECTIONS: https://youtu.be/j-OnEg_nC_A

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“What should I do when a client has been taking care of bills for an estate, but hasn’t filed probate yet?”

Kwabla is a newcomer who found us through Chad’s interview with Ty the Flipman (which you can catch here). He has a motivated seller who did not file probate yet, but she has been paying bills to maintain the house. Chad gives some GREAT advice for getting her through the probate process and helping to ensure she can be compensated for her time and monetary input through the estate. Then, Kwabla (an investor and wholesaler) will be able to close a deal on this probate property!

This highlight is from Mastermind Call #238.

 

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Ask The Expert – Everything You Need To Know About Working With A Probate Attorney to Grow Your Real Estate Business, With John Erik Fraker, JD

What Should I Know About Probate and How Can I Start Getting Referrals From Attorneys?

Have you ever wondered:

How can I get deals and listings through referrals from Real Estate, Probate, and Wills and Trusts Attorneys in my market?
"What is Probate?" and how is it different from a trust?
What are the most common delays and issues in probate?
What should I know when my client has real estate that is in Probate?
How can I impress a probate attorney and win their business?

 

Which Comes First, The Probate Agent or the Lawyer?

Probate is a big ticket for BOTH attorneys and real estate professionals.  Attorneys know people that need help with real estate, and real estate professionals know people that need help with Probate, Wills and Trusts, and Estate Planning.  The truth is, Probate is a viable opportunity for both agents and lawyers, no matter who finds a client in need first.  As an agent/investor, understanding what a Lawyer does and what they might need from you will provide a solid foundation for building referral relationships and providing a higher level of expertise to your clients.

So, What's the Best Way To Build Relationships With Probate and Estate Attorneys Near You?

We've worked with thousands of agents and investors in teaching how to build lasting referral networks and strong relationships with attorneys, but until now, we've never heard the Do's and Do-Not's directly from an Attorney.

John Erik Fraker joins us today not only to lend his insight on what the legal side of probate involves, but also how agents can incorporate a basic understanding of the Probate legal process in their own business to provide exceptional value.

 

We are excited to bring this to you, and hope you find this valuable!

 
 
 
 
 

Nuggets In This Video

1:58 Who is John Fraker?
3:03 Where probate real estate and law intersect
5:10 The true cost and pragmatic differences of probate vs. having an estate plan/trust
19:07 What are the most common reasons for delays in Probate?
20:51 What should agents/investors be ready for when working with Personal Representatives?
23:14 The important question to ask Personal Representatives: “Who do you feel like should be part of these conversations?”
24:13 The most common challenges for Probate Attorneys in dealing with multiple heirs/people who have a role in the decision.
26:08 How do (As an Agent/Investor) you build a referral network of probate attorneys that can bring you business?
29:49 How you can bring real value to a probate attorney?
32:22 What is the biggest mistake agents/investors make when trying to earn referrals from attorneys?
36:32 How you can help attorneys market for new clients (since Attorneys can’t prospect the way Real Estate Professionals can) 41:47 What’s the best way to meet attorneys?
45:35 The Probate Checklist as a co-marketing piece.
48:48 A story of the real value you can bring to an attorney and their client(s): Do you have an example of a realtor that really went above and beyond in their service?
54:33 What does the real estate community need to learn the most about the probate law side of things?
57:08 What’s your advice for legal clients that have real estate to deal with?

 

 


About the Expert - John Erik Fraker, JD

John Erik Fraker, JD - Probate Real Estate Attorney and Agent

 

As a Private Client Attorney since 1999, I have had the privilege of representing many of Silicon Valley’s most successful families with their Estate Planning, Asset Protection and Real Estate needs.

I am a zealous advocate for my clients, whether representing them in the buying or selling of real estate, or in the planning of their Estates.

As a Silicon Valley native, I have seen first-hand how the long-term appreciation of real estate and the financial success of my clients goes hand in hand.

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1-IGRz19fr5eu4zGXU3Z-g

https://www.johnerikfraker.com/

https://siliconvalleyhomesandschools.com/

 

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Probate Quicksand – How to pull Sellers Out of It and WIN THEIR BUSINESS | Probate Real Estate Training Top Plays

Probate leads season exceptionally well.

Well, why?

Personal representatives and heirs often get stuck in what we call “Probate Quicksand.” Either due to time constraints, emotional stress, or both, people procrastinate when it comes to handling what needs to be handled regarding inherited property.

In many cases, this means they are leaving money on the table and possibly setting themselves up to fall behind on mortgage payments, let properties slip further into distress, or miss other unforeseen circumstances like a lack of homeowners’ insurance during natural disaster, Squatter occupancy, etc…

(BONUS: Get around the “I don’t need any help, my attorney’s handling it” objection – The Homeowner’s Insurance Trick ” Live Cold-Calling Roleplay and Script Critique )

These are especially viable opportunities for YOU to step in and pull them out of this quicksand – Even/especially if it’s been a few months since the probate was initially filed.

Doing exactly this just brought James 3 deals and 4 listing appointments in the last two weeks!

In this video, James shares his success story with calling older leads – He was surprised to see how well they seasoned and is now looking to 10x his business through probate real estate leads.  Most importantly, he really feels like he is finding intrinsic value in his business by taking an empathetic approach and providing real solutions to real problems people are dealing with.

ATL Trainers and Founders Chad, Jim, and Tim all offer great insights for recognizing when prospective clients (both personal representatives and other heirs to the estate), are stuck in Probate Quicksand, and how to pull them out. Watch Below:

 

 

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How can you protect yourself from risking your own capital when a motivated seller needs additional services (cleanouts, repairs, rehabs etc…)?

Offering Sellers Vertically-Integrated Solutions Without Putting Your Own Money On The Line Is Easier Than You Think!

The best way to position yourself and your brand is to provide unique value your competition can’t (or won’t!) offer.  How can you provide a wide-array of services when you’re just starting out? How do you respond to a client who asks “How much is this going to cost upfront?” And how can you protect yourself from risking your own capital?


 

On our 235th Mastermind Q&A call, Alesha from Ft. Myers had some questions about building her vendor list with all of these considerations in mind.  Is it important for her to find vendors that will allow invoicing at closing? How can she confidently handle seller’s questions on cost?  In most cases, vendors will get paid after they’ve done what they promised anyway, but Chad offers his advice.

Susan from the Bay Area, California builds on what Alesha was asking: She is curious if we have any documents to help secure payment at closing for additional vendor services paid for up front, as she put her capital on the line once before and got burned.  Chad recommends agents and investors not to put themselves in the position to risk their own capital by providing the services themselves (though he describes how he has made exceptions twice with elderly clients who were very honest and traditional – You can still use your discretion!).  Chad offers key advice; liens are a great tool your contractors can use to ensure payment; for clean-out companies and others, you can leverage a lender who will write their own agreement to secure payment or who will take a premium to hold the risks themselves through to closing.

Don’t be afraid to educate and ask these vendors if they are prepared for this work – they will be important team members as you come across situations where this is needed and you will all build strong business relationships with new clients this way.

 

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The Do-Or-Die Rule When Meeting Face-to-Face with Motivated Sellers.

You'll probably never hear me say this again, but in this SHORT, ONE-MINUTE (😅😁) Video, David Pannell and Chad Corbett share a golden nugget of wisdom for sealing the deal during face-to-face appointments with sellers.

(Alternatively, you can catch David's full success story here, complete with timestamps and dozens of additional best-practice nuggets: https://youtu.be/twb5PrpXcRk)


David is projected (conservatively) to be making $1,000,000 a year by the end of 2019 through listings and acquisitions from PROBATE DEALS ALONE.

Tenure: 1 year (Since June 2018)
Probate Closings To Date: 27
Total Commissions: $370k; $1,000,000 projected by close of Q4 2019.
Pipeline: 75+
ROI: 196% since starting; pacing 634% ROI for 2019.

 

WATCH THE FULL VIDEO HERE

Or select a time-stamp to jump to a specific segment:

5:30 First time calling Probate Leads
6:05 2018 Totals from all lead types
7:37 My First Year in Probate
8:56 Pipeline for 2019
9:26 What’s the split between broker/acquisitions deals?
9:50 Does this work in a competitive market?
10:20 What’s the spread?
10:45 Changing the way you present yourself
12:18 The fortune is in the follow-up
13:07 Getting the Cold-Calling right: Going from “Realtor, Investor” to David
13:40 Showing up to your listing appointments as a professional
15:11 The mindset: Go out and get it!
16:13 Competition from iBuyers and how to get ahead
22:08 The All The Leads Approach - Make it work for you
24:04 Why probate is great
24:47 Winning a listing appointmentwhen another realtor is there
27:40 What do we do with leads that don’t answer the phone?
30:45 One appointment, two guys, three options.
33:25 Bring pre-filled documents, leave a cash offer in hand.... ALWAYS!
37:12 The bottled water secret
38:30 How we found the right ISAs and built up our team
41:25 The perfect ISA for probate leads
48:43 Empathy = Lifelong referrals from clients and other business professionals
51:15 David’s system
59:57 The Numbers
01:03:23 The Million Dollar Pillar

 


About David:  David has been in real estate for 12 years.  He worked with buyers through the short sale/REO period between 2007-2010, switching to listings in 2011. He has also since ramped up his acquisitions.  Like many, he started with open houses and SOI leads. He eventually hired a coach and quickly mastered Expireds/FSBO marketing. He now works directly with ATL, GGMS, and B-School to learn and scale his business. He is focused on solidifying 3 major pillars in 2019, one of which is probate real estate.  In mastering the empathetic approach, the team is looking forward to a third of their projected 300 closings in 2020, to come from probate listings/cash deals alone.


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If you are a real estate agent or real estate investor looking for real estate leads and you want to offer a service to your community then you really need to consider becoming a probate expert. Over the next 40 years over $136 Trillion in assets will pass from one generation to the next and nearly 80% of that wealth is locked up in real estate. This is an opportunity for you to build a strong pillar in your business while your competition is still out begging for business from the same leads they’ve worked for the past 20 years. All The Leads provides a system driven by ever-expanding knowledge and experience. To see how many leads we gather in your county each month, click here.

 

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David Pannell joins Chad Corbett to discuss his system for probate leads marketing, and offers his review of the All The Leads system

Most LUCRATIVE Real Estate Niches: PROBATE Wholesaling, Investing, and Listings – David Pannell’s Story | All The Leads Reviews

Finding The Most Lucrative Real Estate Niches: PROBATE REAL ESTATE

All The Leads reviews are my favorite content to share with Real Estate Agents and Real Estate Investors who are interested in the probate niche.  In this special hour-long webinar, David Pannell joins me to discuss all the chokepoints he came across when getting started in the probate niche, what motivated him to re-organize his team and dive into probate headfirst, and the incredible follow-up sequence his team has built around his probate leads in just one year’s time.  David ended up discovering probate is one of the most lucrative real estate niches, and probate leads are often some of the easiest deals out there.

“I live by Gratitude, so I will share with you everything we have failed on, discovered that works, and what we’re currently working on to get the most out of the probate leads…

…No lead purchased will fall through the cracks!”

-David Pannell

This video serves as a case study for David’s experience building a new pillar in his business through probate – He is projected (conservatively) to be making $1,000,000 a year by the end of 2019 through listings and acquisitions from PROBATE DEALS ALONE.  For anyone looking for ways to build their team, get their system organized, or really master your face-to-face presentations so you can land every deal whether you’re an agent, investor, or(and) a wholesaler, watch David discuss his story with Chad Corbett below!

 

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Tenure: 1 year (Since June 2018)
Probate Closings To Date: 27
Total Commissions: $370k; $1,000,000 projected by close of Q4 2019.
Pipeline: 75+
ROI: 196% since starting; pacing 634% ROI for 2019.

Resources in this video:
ROI Calculator
Best Prospecting Script for Probate

Call Recap:

5:30 First time calling Probate Leads
6:05 2018 Total ROI from all lead types
7:37 My First Year in Probate Real Estate
8:56 Probate Leads Pipeline for 2019
9:26 What’s the split between broker/acquisitions deals?
9:50 Does this work in a competitive market?
10:20 What’s the spread?
10:45 Changing the way you present yourself
12:18 The fortune is in the follow-up
13:07 Getting the Cold-Calling right: Going from “Realtor, Investor, wholesaler” to David
13:40 Showing up to your listing appointments as a professional
15:11 The mindset: Go out and get it!
16:13 Competition from iBuyers and how to get ahead
22:08 The All The Leads Approach to Probate – Make it work for you
24:04 Why probate is great
24:47 Winning a listing appointmentwhen another realtor is there
27:40 What do we do with leads that don’t answer the phone?
30:45 One appointment, two guys, three options.
33:25 Bring pre-filled documents, leave a cash offer in hand…. ALWAYS!
37:12 The bottled water secret
38:30 How we found the right ISAs and built up our team
41:25 The perfect ISA for probate leads
48:43 Empathy = Lifelong referrals from clients and other business professionals
51:15 David’s system for prospecting probate
59:57 The Numbers
01:03:23 The Million Dollar Pillar in Probate

 


David Pannell Headshot - Probate Real Estate Investing, Wholesaling, and Listing All The Leads SubscriberAbout David:  David has been in real estate for 12 years.  He worked with buyers through the short sale/REO period between 2007-2010, switching to listings in 2011. He has also since ramped up his acquisitions.  Like many, he started with open houses and SOI leads. He eventually hired a coach and quickly mastered Expireds/FSBO marketing. He now works directly with ATL, GGMS, and B-School to learn and scale his business. He is focused on solidifying 3 major pillars in 2019, one of which is probate real estate.  In mastering the empathetic approach, the team is looking forward to a third of their projected 300 closings in 2020, to come from probate listings/cash deals alone.


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If you are a real estate agent or real estate investor looking for real estate leads and you want to offer a service to your community then you really need to consider becoming a probate expert. Over the next 40 years over $136 Trillion in assets will pass from one generation to the next and nearly 80% of that wealth is locked up in real estate. This is an opportunity for you to build a strong pillar in your business while your competition is still out begging for business from the same leads they’ve worked for the past 20 years. All The Leads provides a system driven by ever-expanding knowledge and experience. To see how many leads we gather in your county each month, click here.

 


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VLOG - Tips From The Trainer with Chad Corbett - Direct Mail Marketing Still Has a HUGE ROI in 2019

Mail Marketing Isn’t Dead – Here’s How You Can Bring Your Direct Mail Campaign Back To Life

You Can Still Generate Listings and Investment Deals From Your Leads Through Direct Mail Campaigns!

“No one uses mail anymore.” According to https://thedma.org/marketing-insights/marketing-statistics/direct-mail-statistics/, people responded to direct mail 43% more in 2016 than the year before.  Mail marketing actually trumps the response rate of email, online search, paid search and social media!  As more realtors, investors, and agencies channel their marketing budgets to these latter options, the less effective and more expensive these channels can be.  At the same time, as more and more professionals and companies are using mail marketing less, they are creating a vacuum for you to fill.

And if you can fill that space in a way that integrates digital and social elements with your direct mailing pieces, you’ll be the one people hear about, remember, and trust when they need what you offer most.

THINK: If everyone thinks mail marketing is dead, your letters will have less competition. Take advantage of the great migration from mail to digital and fill both spaces effectively!

How Can I Maximize Response Rates and Results with the Letters/Postcards I Send to Personal Representatives (and any other seller lead)?

In our latest from our Tips From The Trainer vlog series, Chad discusses his own ROI with various direct mailing pieces he has sent to real estate and investment leads through the years – what envelopes, stamps, addresses, and sales copy have worked best time and time again –  and how to get the most out of every lead by integrating your mail marketing with your digital marketing, instead of leaving any lead untapped.

 


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Vlog: How to BUILD MOTIVATION behind Cash Offers and As-Is Prices by Pairing Real Estate Math and Empathy

Your Roles and Goals as a Probate Expert are the Same.

Excelling with Probate Leads is as simple as helping your clients understand their options and make informed decisions.  The methodology we teach consistently recommends that all real estate professionals are capable of bringing cash-offers to the table, helping a client list a property as-is, and coordinating repairs and vendor services to prepare a property to go up on the MLS at full retail price, whether this is accomplished independently or by referring business to someone in your professional network.

So, you can provide each of these things no problem, and now you’ve got to guide your clients as they make decisions on which route is best for them.  But what should you do if you come across a client who is disheartened by a cash-offer or as-is price estimate that’s lower than they expected, when you know fixing and selling the house at full price isn’t a viable solution either?

Getting past the stigma of a cash-offer

It usually isn’t easy for a homeowner to accept the reality of a cash-offer on a property they have sentimental attachment to.  They don’t often realize the retail price they have in mind for the property would require a significant investment of time, energy, and finances to attain. As the professional, you get to play an important role in helping them understand why and when accepting a cash-offer or selling as-is might be a much better value for their time.

This video will detail how you can use real estate math to close this gap in perception and build motivation with the prices you present to a client, instead of letting the prices be a source of discouragement.

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Our Mastermind Highlight Reel highlights various top plays from our weekly live (and free!) training calls.
This top play is from Mastermind call #232, which includes greater details on calculating market pricing: https://youtu.be/EdA6OocSiuA

For more tips for increasing acquisition opportunities from probate leads, check out this highlight video: https://youtu.be/QSRZVhUgTfE

For more insight on scripts for cold-calling probate leads, check out our Tips from the Trainer Video – The BEST Real Estate Cold-Calling Script for Probate Leads: http://alltheleads.com/best-real-estate-cold-calling-script-probate-leads-tips-trainer/


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